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Well to be perfectly honest the episode didn't do it for me.I suppose I was thinking of something more Halloween and it just didn't deliver.

While sad Benny's story was more confusing then anything and seemed to lag on for too long. I really don't even remember his full story or the names or anything. It was really boring to me.

Dean is just...I know I'm walking on egg shells here when I say this but his attitude has been really shitty thus far. I know, PTSD, purgatory it messed him up. He feels betrayed by Sam. I get that BUT I don't quite understand how he is failing to see the obvious parallels here between Benny and Ruby. It's so clear it's smacking me in the face. I don't understand how he can't SEE that he's basically doing what Sam did in Season 4. We all have our excuses and reasons I ain't begrudging Dean that but in hindsight I figured he'd, ya know, LEARN from that little disaster seeing how horrible it turned out.

Guess not.

We don't know enough about Benny to judge but I don't buy the whole friendly vamp act. I honestly don't. Not after everything we've seen on this show.

The flashbacks with Amelia didn't really paint her in any better light then before. She's said some really horrible and insulting things to Sam which he seems to have brushed off rather easily, but I suppose Sam has always been like that. We don't know enough about Amelia either to judge but quite frankly she's coming off as a bitch but I'll refrain from making any other assumptions about her yet.

I feel really bad for Sam because he's getting the really shitty end of things right now. Since we don't know enough about his year with Amelia him not looking for Dean isn't yet explained (even if I can perfectly understand his reasons I just like canon confirmation) and I'm sure Dean's little elephant ala Benny wasn't too reassuring for Sam either. His obvious panic and worry over Dean just killed me. Because Sam cares SO MUCH. And I know Dean does too but these two....argh sorry. I'm just frustrated they don't seem to UNDERSTAND that they BOTH still love each other VERY much.

Some key points for me was that Sam mentioned that motels weren't part of the town they were not part of anything. It's interesting and very sad because that's likely how he felt as a kid. An outcast, not really part of anything, even in his own family. And to see him STILL believing in it is just really disheartening.

Another was the silent communication between the boys at the end. As soon as Sam shook Benny's hand his face changed, he knew something wasn't right. He reached for his knife but Dean gave a head nod telling Sam no and Sam went with it. Just like that.

Of course Sam was pissed! Which really, I'm glad he is. It's been so long that Sam has rightfully been angry at Dean that I'm happy to see him express anger towards Dean. Because while Sam has done some shitty things in Season 8 and previously, I think Dean's attitude right now is spectacularly shitty so I'm happy to see Sam expressing some form of emotion instead of just silently going with everything Dean does.

Wow that was a lot but overall I was more confused then anything. I think this episode wasn't well articulated. It just felt like the scenes weren't meshing. Does that make sense? Anyone the promo looked way better then the product. Here's hoping next week is better.


Date: 2012-11-01 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamie-love13.livejournal.com
Well, your long pent up feelings are obviously correct with what everyone's feeling, aha xD I would totally join that movement because oh my god yes, that's always on my mind and I'm always saying there has to be a way to let them see. I think you've nailed it with Jared though. I think maybe after he looks away from that precious cute kid of his, he'll realize that his character is going down the drain and hey, hopefully try to stop it. >.<

I can rant about this forever, lol.

Date: 2012-11-01 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindyls.livejournal.com
I so agree! I did this a few weeks ago on a friend's lj and there were people on there saying,'I love you!', lol. I think we all have kept quiet thru the years because the prevailing bias in the fandom is towards Dean and everybody in his life, except Sam ;-) Maybe I need to start a blog and get Carver to read it ;-) But every time I see Jared interviewed I think, 'gee, I guess I can't fight his battles for him, if he's so happy with things....' But darn it, it upsets me more than I care to admit ;-) I've been with this show since the pilot and it hurts me deeply to see the way the fandom is and also how the show has gone in regards to Sam.

Date: 2012-11-01 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanaynay67.livejournal.com
I think ur right. Sam needs ppl tht aren't female bitches. Its just...idek! Just I agree with u!

Date: 2012-11-02 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lk737.livejournal.com
God, could I love you any more than I do? I feel like I have finally found the people in this fandom who feel the same way I do about Sam and the lost brotherly love. I agree with everything that you have said, and am basically going to be stalking you and your amazing opinions. Just so ya' know. ;)

Hurt to the core is how so many of us feel, for how the show and fandom treat Dean vs. Sam. Annoyed and frustrated is how I always feel for Jared. I hope those baby snuggles help him. Sam does need a friend that aren't female bitches.

Date: 2012-11-02 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindyls.livejournal.com
Wow, I really need to start a blog or maybe an lj community or something! We need to organize ;-)) I keep telling myself things like, 'it's just a tv show, Jared is happy, leave it alone', but I just can't. Maybe I feel paternal towards him since I am an old geezer,lol, but damn, he is so good to the fans and it hurts me to know that a major part of fandom would be happy if the show was just Dean and Cas...blech. Don't get me wrong, the one thing that keeps me here is that Jared and Jensen are such good friends. That makes me all warm inside and I love that that hasn't changed. I can get thru the show stuff as long as they remain that way,but darn it, I do want justice for Sam!

Date: 2012-11-02 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lk737.livejournal.com
I would completely support your blog. I have been looking for "Sam needs friends" supporters for 3 years. And now I found you *hugs*

I feel the same way that you do. Jared is happy, why rock the boat? I am an old geezer like you then, because I want to protect him. He is such a sweetheart! Not a fan of those that just want Dean/Cas either. Apparently there are even fans on Twitter who want Jared to quit the show? Unreal. Am so glad that Jared and Jensen are so close. All the convention footage of them being so brotherly makes me melt. Did you see the Chicago convention footage where Jensen called himself "Uncle Jensen" when he was talking to a cooing Thomas offstage? So cute :)

Justice for Sam is a wonderful mantra....if only we could get one writer who was on our side ;)

Date: 2012-11-02 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindyls.livejournal.com
I agree with all that you said and you said it beautifully ;-) I am seriously considering starting a Wordpress blog, at least they are free, I think, lol. Anyway, I did watch the Chicago con vids and I kept waiting for one that got the end when Jared held Thomas up - maybe not ON stage, but off to the side? I'm not sure, I just read a tweet before I saw the vids that said something about that. But all of the ones I saw stopped at the end of the panel when they are signing the banners. I loved when Jensen 'talked' to Thomas backstage, so cute! I loved his 'I love you buddy, but Uncle Jensen is trying to work here;. Awww...;-) I wish some of those hateful people who want Sam gone would consider that Jensen is close to Jared and loves working with him and he wouldn't be too happy with them. I hate that there is an actual twitter called Jarpadmustgo- why are they so hateful? As much as I love Sam and Jared, I don't hate Dean or Jensen! I like the guy and love Dean for what he was all those seasons til recently - a loving big brother ;-) And in all my times in the fandom, I have never posted hateful or derogatory things about Jensen or Dean.
Justice for Sam sounds like a good title for the blog - hmm ;-) Although I am wanting to come up with a title that will get Carver's attention if he ever does a google search for himself, lol.

Date: 2012-11-02 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lk737.livejournal.com
Oh bless your heart! You are too kind for words. :D

I would so love and follow you if you started a Wordpress blog. Didn't Kim Rhodes start a Wordpress blog? I seem to remember that. Anyway, super amazing idea. I would rec your blog on my LJ and Tumblr. I have found some decent people on Tumblr who are more mature and non shippers. We would stalk your blog like crazy.

I didn't see Jared hold up Thomas, I didn't know he did that. Maybe it was too fast or dark offstage to get good footage? But I did see the conversation from "Uncle Jensen". Awww is right! :D I keep hunting down those adorable pics of Thomas too. He's possibly the cutest baby I know. And those guys plus cute baby makes them even cuter!

I know exactly who you are talking about when you mention "Jarpadmustgo". That is such a hateful person, you are right. I don't hate Dean or Jensen either! But apparently there is also a cousin or sister of the "Jarpadmustgo" who stalks and harasses Danneel on Twitter. Just jealous children, really. I wish all characters could be loved and given equal attention. I loved Dean as big brother for so long. But we seem to be getting so much Dean/Cas/Benny because of purgatory. And I don't hate on Dean or Cas because of that. It just all seems so silly.

Yes, a good title that gets Carver's attention would be good for the blog. I think we can dream big when it comes to loving these boys ;) <3

Date: 2012-11-03 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindyls.livejournal.com
You are kind too! I am trying to come up with a good title for a blog. Yes, Kim Rhodes did start one, as did Clif I believe. They are pretty easy to start and free, so I like that idea more than another lj or even using my own lj for it.
I don't get the hateful people towards Jared - I have never encountered a 'Sam girl' or Jared fan who hated Jensen or Danneel and none that spread such hate on the internet. It's a sorry statement on some of Jensen's fans though ;-(. I just hope Jared isn't aware of too many things, but I have a feeling he does. But he's such a positive guy that he doesn't let it affect his interaction with fans ;-)

Date: 2012-11-02 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamie-love13.livejournal.com
STOP IT. STOP PUTTING MY THOUGHTS INTO WORDS, OMG. I know how you feel. I've grown up with the show, having the pilot come out when I was 12 and watching it since then, growing up with it. I just.

God, let's be friends?

Date: 2012-11-02 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindyls.livejournal.com
Twelve!? Oh my lord, I have videotapes twice as old as you, lol. I am so glad to hear others think like I do- I've kept it in for so long(at least on ljs and boards and such) that I just decided to let it fly these days ;-) I would love to be friends ;-)

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